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Selected stops kept sounding.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:03 am
by habakkuk1v7
Hi again!

Has anyone of you encountered one or more selected stop/s that kept sounding evrn after the key is released? I had to either deselect that stop/s or completely close Miditzer. Pushing the cancel button won't do either because the sound will return again if i select ot again.

BTW thank you guys for being such a great help to me, especially Jim. I'm a newbie and knows nothing much about computer stuff.

Vincent

Re: Selected stops kept sounding.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:07 am
by greenfox
That sounds like you are pushing your computer past its capability to keep up.

What is the specification of your computer and operating system?

Re: Selected stops kept sounding.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:30 am
by habakkuk1v7
It's an old HP netbook running on Win XP. I'm not at home right now and can't recall at this moment about the computer memory etc.

Re: Selected stops kept sounding.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:58 am
by bdalton
The problem of a note continuing to sound is called a cipher. Click on the Miditzer label in the centre of the screen to clear it.
Barry

Re: Selected stops kept sounding.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:25 am
by habakkuk1v7
Hi Berry,

it works! A hidden function?
:lol:

Re: Selected stops kept sounding.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:45 am
by Jim Henry
The function is hidden because you shouldn't need it. It is called a MIDI Panic Reset and it is not uncommon on MIDI devices. (Hiding it is not common though. :lol: ) It was deliberately not provided on early versions of the Miditzer so that people wouldn't just do a reset and not report bugs that caused ciphers.

When you have a cipher, look carefully at the on-screen keyboards. You'll probably find a key stuck down.

If you open the Windows Task Manager, the Performance tab will show a real-time graph of the amount of computer power that is being used. If that approaches 100% things will bog down to the point that it may take a long time, i.e. 20-30 seconds for notes to turn off. That is not technically a cipher, which is a stuck note that will never stop without intervention.

If you have a true cipher, then almost certainly a MIDI Note Off message is being lost. You should try to figure out why if this happens regularly. If you are using a low cost "no name" MIDI cable, those are known to be troublesome. Beyond that, it can be very hard to track down lost MIDI messages.

Re: Selected stops kept sounding.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:00 am
by habakkuk1v7
Hi Jim,

noted with thanks!