Installing 216 on ACER 5003 with 32-bit XP SP3

Job one is installing the Miditzer and getting it configured
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Installing 216 on ACER 5003 with 32-bit XP SP3

Post by thebytechoice » Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:50 am

I am very sad that I simply cannot install miditzer 216 on this ACER 5003 Notebook Computer. I am running 32-bit XPPro with SP3 and have 2GB RAM and AMD Turion 64ML-32 CPU. Runs great on my old desktops - Dell Dimension 4300 (3GB RAM) and HP Media Desktop also with 3GB RAM. I get the "ding" sound followed by an popup which reads "The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0150002). Click OK to terminate the application." I have tried uninstall-reboot-reinstall a couple of times and it fails the same way. I am pretty sure it worked on this machine a few years back when the machine had XPHome with SP2 (maybe even SP3). Anyone have any suggestions? I am retired now from running my MIDI converter business and was hoping to build up a system for personal enjoyment using one of our old keyboard MIDI systems! :( :(

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Re: Installing 216 on ACER 5003 with 32-bit XP SP3

Post by Jim Henry » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:17 am

The error message is coming from Windows. I think there is a missing Visual C++ support package. Here are three discussions of this problem:

https://support.microsoft.com/kb/822520/en-us

http://forum.conceiva.com/showthread.ph ... xc0150002)

http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/s ... 50002.html

I think the Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package (x86) referenced in the third discussion is the most likely one to solve the problem for the Miditzer.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Installing 216 on ACER 5003 with 32-bit XP SP3

Post by thebytechoice » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:38 am

Jim - Many thanks for the rapid reply. I uninstalled Miditzer 216 and installed the Visual C++ package from Microsoft, but it still puts out the same error message. I even installed MIDIOX OK and MIDIYOKE and they work perfectly. My old desktop machines also have WXP-32 with SP3 and they both accept and run the MIDITZER 216 perfectly. Is perhaps JAVA runtime required for your virtual organ? I am planning to use one of the old desktops but I would love to have MIDITZER available for when I travel with the Notebook.

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Re: Installing 216 on ACER 5003 with 32-bit XP SP3

Post by Jim Henry » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:03 am

Java is not required by the Miditzer. Uninstalling/reinstalling the Miditzer rarely solves a problem and should not be required if the issue is the lack of a Windows component.

Can you use the Event Viewer to get more information about what is going wrong as described in this post:
http://forum.conceiva.com/showthread.ph ... 0xc0150002
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Post by thebytechoice » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:22 pm

Thanks for continued help, Jim.

Here's the only meaningful event I get -

"Generate Activation Context failed for C:\Program Files\Miditzer Style 216\fluidsynth.dll. Reference error message: The operation completed successfully."

The other log entry has data - just a repeat of the popup.

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Re: Installing 216 on ACER 5003 with 32-bit XP SP3

Post by Jim Henry » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:19 pm

I think what you are seeing is a problem with the FluidSynth module that the Miditzer loads to provide a default MIDI synthesizer. I am not sure of what supporting packages FluidSynth might be expecting but they are likely different from what the Miditzer proper requires. (Still not Java however.) I'll give this some thought. If anyone else has some ideas, please jump in!

If you are a bit adventurous, you might be able to find a solution by using the development version of the Miditzer 216 found in the Development Lab section of this Forum. In particular, look at the posts having to do with the substitution of current versions of FluidSynth. It's been a long time since I worked with this but I do remember that there are ways to change the versions of FluidSynth being used. I don't know if this would be a way to sidestep the problems you are experiencing.
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Re: Installing 216 on ACER 5003 with 32-bit XP SP3

Post by johnh » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:36 pm

I ran Procmon from the Sysinternals Suite on my WinXP SP3 System.

I started and stopped the Miditzer 216.

I filtered the events in Procmon by Process Name, Miditzer, any event with 'file' in the description, and event status of 'Success'

Here is the list of files accessed:

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C:\Additional Program Files\Organ\Miditzer Style 216\FLUIDSYNTH.DLL
C:\Additional Program Files\Organ\Miditzer Style 216\libexpat.dll
C:\Additional Program Files\Organ\Miditzer Style 216\Miditzer.cbo
C:\Additional Program Files\Organ\Miditzer Style 216\Miditzer.sf2
C:\Additional Program Files\Organ\Miditzer Style 216\Miditzer.xml
C:\Additional Program Files\Organ\Miditzer Style 216\Miditzer216.exe
C:\Additional Program Files\Organ\Miditzer Style 216\mlt_216.dll
C:\WINDOWS\AppPatch\sysmain.sdb
C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\MIDITZER216.EXE-1661CB71.pf
C:\WINDOWS\system32\advapi32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\apphelp.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\comdlg32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.LOG
C:\WINDOWS\system32\crypt32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctype.nls
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\RtkHDAud.sys
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dsound.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\gdi32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\imagehlp.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\imm32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\locale.nls
C:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msasn1.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msctf.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msctfime.ime
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimtf.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\oleaut32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\oledlg.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rpcrt4.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\secur32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\setupapi.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\shimeng.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\shlwapi.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\sortkey.nls
C:\WINDOWS\system32\sorttbls.nls
C:\WINDOWS\system32\unicode.nls
C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\version.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv
C:\WINDOWS\system32\win32k.sys
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winmm.dll
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winspool.drv
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wintrust.dll
C:\WINDOWS\WINDOWSSHELL.MANIFEST
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\X86_MICROSOFT.VC80.CRT_1FC8B3B9A1E18E3B_8.0.50727.6195_X-WW_44262B86
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_x-ww_44262b86\msvcr80.dll
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\X86_MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.COMMON-CONTROLS_6595B64144CCF1DF_6.0.2600.6028_X-WW_61E65202
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.6028_x-ww_61e65202\comctl32.dll
I don't know if that will help jog anyones memory or not... :lol:

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Re: Installing 216 on ACER 5003 with 32-bit XP SP3

Post by thebytechoice » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:57 pm

Well, all is well that ends well. Late this afternoon I installed M-Audio's MIDI 1x1 UNO device and the "service" reported as failed to start and would not start. Next I loaded a different M-Audio Driver and it proceeded to wipe away my C++ 2005 and installed a replacement copy of the C++ 2005 which the M-Audio driver package included. Guess what --- when I made a subsequent attempt to run MIDITZER it came up perfectly. The version of C++ 2005 from Microsoft must have a bias against WXP since they have abandoned all support for the OS. Anyway, thanks to you Jim for suspecting the C++ issue and to M-Audio for a good version of C++ 2005.

Another matter to share and a question to ask ---

I have a little ACER Netbook with 2GB RAM which has LINUX Mint 17 installed. Using the WINE application loader under LINUX, I successfully installed MIDITZER 216. Nice! Runs great played by the netbook's keyboard. Also, with firmware update package from LINUX I successfully installed the M-AUDIO USB UNO 1x1 MIDI Interface. In addition, I installed MIDIOX and it comes up reading the M-Audio MIDI device as selectable for In and/or OUT. The only problem is that the XML file you access by right-clicking at top of MIDITZER screen for changing settings cannot be accessed via right-click in LINUX Mint. You get an entirely different screen. Any thoughts as to a workaround? Without access I cannot make MIDITZER setting changes such as input devices, etc. It might be that you could edit the file in a Windows Machine then copy it over to the LINUX emulated drive c: ?? Any ideas? Is there a hot-key to access the settings?

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Re: Installing 216 on ACER 5003 with 32-bit XP SP3

Post by Jim Henry » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:07 pm

Can you left click the yellow M in the upper left corner of the Miditzer window?
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Re: Installing 216 on ACER 5003 with 32-bit XP SP3

Post by thebytechoice » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:37 pm

In my LINUX netbook MIDITZER Screen, the top consists of a very simple off-white title bar. In the middle it reads "MIDITZER STYLE 216 ver 0.881" and on the far right are an X (for closing) and a - (for minimizing) sign. Nothing else - no "M".

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