Configuring Keyboards, ver. 0.8

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Join Wes Trigger as he guides you throughConnecting Keyboards to the Miditzer Virtual OrganThe
term MIDI will be used frequently throughout this document. It stands
for “Musical Instrument Digital Interface”. This is the MIDI in Miditzer.MIDI
provides a standard way of connecting musical instruments together.
This article is about connecting your Organ or Keyboards to a computer
so that they are able to communicate with the Miditzer. You will use
MIDI to do this. Most MIDI devices have three ports for
communicating with another MIDI device or passing information through
to another MIDI device. The three ports and their definition appear
below.MIDI
Out port is used to transmit MIDI messages originating within a device
such as an Organ or a keyboard to the IN port of another device. MIDI In port is used to receive messages from an external device such as an Organ or a Keyboard from their OUT port.MIDI
Thru port is used to retransmit a copy of every message received by the
IN port. It does not merge in the MIDI messages originating within the
device. Since our purpose is to transmit data to the
computer we will be concerned with the OUT and IN ports only. Forget
that the THRU port exists. It is not used to connect to the Miditzer.
Note that all the MIDI ports use the same type of jack. A MIDI cable
has the same type of plug on both ends:The Golden Rule of MIDI cabling is:OUT to INWhen connecting one MIDI device to another you always connect the OUT port to the IN port of the following device.Where
will you find the MIDI ports on your Organ or Keyboard? Consult the
operations guide for your equipment. Become familiar with the MIDI
specifications for your Organ/Keyboards. A careful look around will
probably reveal the distinctive round 5 pin MIDI connectors. Look
closely and you will probably find the IN and OUT labels.Connecting to the ComputerTo
connect to the computer you must have a MIDI interface to give your
computer a MIDI In Port and a MIDI Out Port. A MIDI to USB interface
will be the best choice for most people. You can find examples of MIDI
to USB interfaces in the Miditzer Marketplace. The type of interface
device you need will be determined by the type of console you are
connecting to the Computer. For our purpose organ consoles can be
categorized as one of two types:Integrated ConsolesComponent ConsolesThe
integrated console will most likely be a true organ console. In an
integrated console one MIDI OUT port provides all of the MIDI signals
for all the Organ keyboards and other controls. This type of console
needs only one pair of ports on the MIDI to USB interface, a 1 X 1
interface like the Midisport Uno:The
component console is a collection of keyboards with each keyboard
having its own MIDI OUT connection. To connect the keyboards to the
computer, you will need a MIDI to USB interface with a MIDI In port for
each keyboard. Fortunately, you can obtain interfaces with more then
one MIDI IN Port. Most users with a component console will want a 4x4
MIDI to USB interface like the Midisport 4x4, which has 4 pairs of MIDI
ports. This gives you enough ports for 2 or 3 keyboards and a
pedalboard. As you might have guessed, the multiple interface devices
are nothing more then a group of 1 X 1 interfaces in the same box
sharing one USB cable. Each MIDI port will appear as a separate device
on your computer.To
review the types of interfaces that are available at a reasonable cost,
click on the following link to go to the Miditzer Marketplace.www.VirtualOrgan.com/Marketplace/Be
sure you get a MIDI cable of sufficient length for every MIDI Out port
you need to connect. Once you have decided on and have purchased an
interface, install the driver software for the MIDI interface and
connect it to your computer following the manufacture instructions.
Then connect your MIDI Out port from your console to the MIDI In port
of the computer interface. If you have a component console and you are
new to MIDI, just connect you Solo keyboard and get that working
correctly before you add the remaining keyboards. It will be less
confusing to add keyboards one by one.Configuring the MiditzerIf you are connecting just one keyboard to your computer, there is a pretty good chance it will already be set up to play the Solo manual on the Miditzer Style 216. Try it and see. If it doesn't control the Solo manual, or anything at all, or if you are connecting more than one keyboard, press the yellow M in the upper left corner of the Miditzer display and select Miditzer Settings... This will open a control panel where you can tell the Miditzer where it can find the MIDI messages from each of your keyboards. Start by adding all the MIDI In Devices that are connected to your keyboards to the Active MIDI input devices list. There will be just one MIDI input device for an integrated console and one MIDI input device for each keyboard that is connected in a component console. The following screen shot illustrates a possible MIDI In Device configuration for a component console with 3 keyboards (2 manuals and pedals) using the Midisport 4x4 interface:All MIDI note messages look pretty much the same. They contain data that says what note is being played and whether that note has just been pressed or released. An organ typically has three or more keyboards (the pedals count as one keyboard). And they all have a lot of notes that are the same. A channel number is included in a MIDI message so that up to 16 different devices can all send the same note on the same MIDI cable without the notes getting mixed up. On Integrated Consoles all the keyboards share one MIDI Out port, so each keyboard has to be assigned a unique channel to identify its note messages. Since only one MIDI In port is used on the computer, there will be only one MIDI In device that has all of the MIDI input. Leave the MIDI In device set to Omni so that the Miditzer does not consider what device the MIDI messages occurred on. You are only concerned with the first 3 numbers in the Chan column which tell the Miditzer what MIDI channel will carry messages for the keyboard identified on the left. Consult your instrument documentation to determine what MIDI channel has been assigned to each keyboard. If no documentation is available, or you just can't understand it, use the “Trial and Error” method to identify the channels. Right click on the channel number to select the right number for each keyboard. The following screen shot illustrates a possible Integrated Console configuration:On Component Consoles each keyboard has its own MIDI Out port and so each keyboard will be on a different MIDI In Device in the computer. The MIDI messages can be identified by what MIDI In device they were received on as well as by the MIDI channel. Thus it is not necessary for each keyboard to use a unique channel in this configuration. Some MIDI keyboards allow you to assign a MIDI channel for the keyboard. If no channel select capability exists, the MIDI channel number is most likely Channel 1. To configure a component console you need to know what MIDI In Device and what MIDI Channel each keyboard uses. You are only concerned with the six values indicated below, a MIDI input device and a Chan for each of the three keyboards. On the Miditzer's MIDI Input control panel, right click on the MIDI input device to select the correct device for each keyboard and right click on the channel number to select the correct channel for each keyboard. The following screen shot illustrates a possible Component Console configuration:IMPORTANT: Changing the Pedal ChannelIf you change the Pedal Channel, be sure to change the Chan at the far right to the same channel. If you don’t, you won’t be able to play the drums and cymbals on the pedal. See Configuring Second Touch for details.If after reading this document and following the instructions herein you are not able to successfully configure your keyboard, go to the Miditzer Forum and describe your problem in the Connecting Keyboards area and someone is sure to have a solution for you. The following link will take you to the Forum. If you are not a Forum member please join.www.VirtualOrgan.com/Forum/
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Post by engrssc » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:47 pm

Appears I have a config problem. I haven't played the 2T for some time so didn't notice it.
 
I have 5 keyboard to MIDI encoders configured thus:
 
 
Pedal           Chan 3,        In-1 USB MidiSport 8 X 8
Accomp        Chan 2,        In-2 USB MidiSport 8 X 8
Great           Chan 4,        In-3 USB MidiSport 8 X 8
Solo             Chan 1,        In-4 USB MidiSport 8 X 8
Accomp (2T) Chan 9,        In-5 USB MidiSport 8 X 8
 
 
Some of the "strange" configuration is due to some previous system setups with some other organs which I haven't bothered to change. Right now, everything works with MidiTzer except the Accomp 2T.
 
I believe I read somewhere that MidiTzer is looking for 2T midi messages to be coming from the same input device as the 1T for that manual. Am I missing something here? I know 2T was working a while ago and it does work on a Hauptwerk organ.
 
Have been working on a non-stop marathon job, so too tired to think tonight. BTW, the pedal traps work fine on the pedal 1T.
 
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Post by Jim Henry » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:19 pm

engrssc wrote:I have 5 keyboard to MIDI encoders configured thus:

  
Pedal           Chan 3,        In-1 USB MidiSport 8 X 8
Accomp        Chan 2,        In-2 USB MidiSport 8 X 8
Great           Chan 4,        In-3 USB MidiSport 8 X 8
Solo             Chan 1,        In-4 USB MidiSport 8 X 8
Accomp (2T) Chan 9,        In-5 USB MidiSport 8 X 8
 Right now, everything works with MidiTzer except the Accomp 2T.
 
I believe I read somewhere that MidiTzer is looking for 2T midi messages to be coming from the same input device as the 1T for that manual. Am I missing something here?
You remember correctly. You'll note that on each line there is only one device to configure and two channels. The Miditzer Settings dialog only handles 1st and 2nd touch on the same MIDI In Device.You might be able to trick the Miditzer. This is the part of the Miditzer260.xml file that stores the Acc 2T configuration:        <division id="3">            <device-id>0</device-id>            <channel>1</channel>Try changing the device in the XML file and see if it will allow you to configure a different MIDI In Device for 2T.

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Post by engrssc » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:56 am

Assume I would need to copy the XML file into a text editor, make the change and then copy it back? Is Notepad adequate or do I need something more elaborate?
 
I found:
 
            <division id="3">
            <device-id>0</device-id>
            <channel>1</channel>
 
What would you suggest I change device id to, say 1?
 
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Post by Joe » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:18 am

engrssc wrote:Is Notepad adequate or do I need something more elaborate?

 
Notepad will do just fine. 
 

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Post by engrssc » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:26 am

Thanks Joe. Think I'll sleep a bit more before tackling that project. So far in 30 hours, I've slept 6.
 
Thanks again,
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Post by Jim Henry » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:01 am

engrssc wrote:Assume I would need to copy the XML file into a text editor, make the change and then copy it back? Is Notepad adequate or do I need something more elaborate?
 
I found:
 
            <division id="3">            <device-id>0</device-id>            <channel>1</channel>
 
What would you suggest I change device id to, say 1?
 
Rgds,
Ed
You need to figure out the device id for the device that has the second touch channel. What I would suggest is use Miditzer Settings to first set the Device ID to the 2nd touch device for the Accompaniment. Look at the XML file to see what it is. Then use Miditzer Settings to set the Device ID to the 1st touch device for the Accompaniment. Edit the file to change the 2nd touch device.If this works, you may have to touch up the XML file anytime you make a change with Miditzer Settings.

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Post by Jim Henry » Mon May 28, 2007 7:32 pm

Roland, I moved you question to the Learning About the Console area and started a new topic, Non-organist needs advice. I was afraid your question might not get noticed down here.

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Post by Roland » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:51 pm

Whereas I can get my PC KB to play the Miditzer, I can't get my Korg KB to play it. I have a MIDISport 1X1 plugged into the MIDI in and out ports on my Korg. The IN and OUT plugs are clearly marked.  And the MIDISport USB connector is  plugged directly into my computer. The USB light on the MIDISport is illuminated in a slow blink per instructions and the MIDISport input light blinks rapid. The output light in not illuminated.  The MIDI channel is set to 1 on both devices. The Korg is set to MIDI EXT(ernal) Out. But no sound when pressing any of the Korg keys.  Any suggestions? Thanks,Roland

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