MidiTzer "PupiTzer" Linux Uploads

Installation of the Miditzer on Linux machines
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Post by KAllman » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:15 am

Hello all,
   I've just uploaded the new Linux "PupiTzer" files that Graham Goode sent me.  This new Linux ISO version is now able to run the latest MidiTzer .881 version in 32 bit color : http://prosites-allmanmusic.homestead.c ... Linux.html 
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Post by Russ » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:13 pm

To clarify that 32 bit it is a label put on by MS which isn't quite correct. It is a bit complicated but if it runs Puppy it should run this.
The choices on boot up were 16bit and 24bit.

As I understand it 32 bit is a Windows standard but the last 8 bits are
transparent and aren't used anyway so it is 24bit, but they are still
labeled as such. Windows calls it 32 bits which it isn't but it looks
good. Linux calls it 24bit which it is. The problem was that Wine was
looking at the Windows program and saying that Windows says that it
needs 32 bits even though it didn't. Now it is saying it needs 24bits
which it has so it should run. That was the upgrade that we were waiting
for. :)

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Post by Eugene S » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:38 pm

Hi Russ And Everyone, else,
I downloaded the latest version of PupiTzer. When I tried to run it the screen was just blotchey colors, when MidiTzer 0.881 loaded. Did I do something wrong or is there still a problem. Puppy itself was alright when I closed MidiTzer. Yes my computer is set for 32 bit screen resolution. My computer is emachines Model T4010/Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz/2 GB Ram.
Any thoughts,
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Post by Russ » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:03 pm

Hi Eugene,It may be that when you installed Puppitzer the last time it installed as 16bit and it is using the old settings. To re-install it you need to ignore the other settings. See returning to BaseCamp with Puppitzer.http://www.jbwebserver.net/mforum/forum ... D=1114When you get to selecting video, look for the ones with 24 on the end.

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Post by johnh » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:25 pm

Hi,
     Just for grins I downloaded the ISO, burned it and stuck it into an old ThinkPad laptop. Puppy booted, I had to manually select my video res and monitor, and then got the desktop and jack, qsynth, and Miditzer all complained about sound. I ran 'config' and set up Alsa to talk to the sound card. I futzed with the Jack config for a bit and finally got it happy, and then finally Qsynth would work. Miditzer gives some message about not being able to initialize the MIDI player but I can load and play MIDI files. Using the mouse to play the keys displays a bit of a delay from mouse click to key down to sound. This is an older laptop so I wasn't expecting great performance, don't know if I'll spend more time with this machine or not. Thanks for all the work folks are putting into this, I haven't looked at Windows emulation on *nix for a long time and was pleasantly surprised by the progress that has been made.

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Post by Russ » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:51 pm

Well done John,  What processor is that? If you can get some keyboard input preferably from a USB it might work faster than the mouse because the the mouse uses the windows graphics through Wine. I have also found that the release is 1/2 sec on accomp and 1sec on pedals using the mouse but is instantaneous with the keyboards.BTW I got a Eee PC at Christmas. My wife trying to divert me away from all this Organ stuff. Anyway I burned Puppitzer to a USB memory stick and booted the Eee off that. Didn't get time to configure the sound yet and the screen is a bit small but it will run an external monitor. Looks promising.Anybody want to try running Puppitzer on an iBrick?

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Post by johnh » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:07 pm

Russ wrote: Well done John, What processor is that?


(The) A21p is based on Intel 440BX chipset, with AGP bus and up to 512MB PC100 SDRAM memory support. They come with 700MHz to 850MHz Intel Pentium III Mobile processors, featuring SpeedStep technology. This one has a 1600x1200 (!!!) display which is why I've hung onto it.

I may try hooking up a MIDI keyboard, will my any chance of my Midisport 2x2 working?

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Post by ggoode.sa » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:17 pm

Hi Y'all,

Now that I've had some sleep, a few notes:

The new Puppitzer needs 24bit graphics run at 1028x720 screen
resolution to run properly. If you're using the XVESA drivers then you
must "Test" the screen resolution before selecting "OK" as the running
of the "Test" actually does the change of resolution.

I have had to build in time delays on the automatically loading of the
programs. There is a 4 second delay after Qjackctl starts to when
Qsynth starts (so that Qsynth can utilize JACK), and there is an 8
second time delay between Qsynth starting and Miditzer (so that
Miditzer can find Qsynth1). These settings work with my setup, but if
you have a slower computer you may need to increase the delay time. Let
me know if you're experiencing a problem & I'll talk you through
which files to modify :-)

There are 4 default usb-audio drivers loaded at boot. If you have a
2x2, 4x4, or 8x8 you will probably need to load the virmidi drivers as
well and use JACK to assign the various usb midi ports to the virtual
midi ports that Wine should then see. Let me know if you need help
setting this up.

There is an ALSAMIXER icon on the desktop now that can be used access
all of your soundcard's channels. This will only configure the first
sound card in your system. If you have more than one soundcard then you
will need to load alsamixer with the "alsamixer -c 1" option for the
second card, and "alasmixer -c 2" for the third ("-c 0" is the first).

Please play with the volume control on your computer and the gain
control on Qsynth until you get it sounding right for your system. Most
of us find that a Qsynth gain between 15-25 is more than enough, and
above that we start to get unpleasant blurring of the soundfont.

Have fun!

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Post by ggoode.sa » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:21 pm

Oh yes... and Miditzer will probably complain that the Miditzer fluidsynth can't use your soundcard - Jack is using it, & will also complain that the Midi Player won't load, just click OK. Miditzer should load fine & you'll be able to load and play Midi :-)GrahamG

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Post by Eugene S » Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:12 pm

Hi Everyone,
I did as was suggested an clicked on 24 bit video and the program works great. It found the sound card, I did not have to do anything except click on those boxes that were complaining. about things that weren't really wrong anyway. Thanks to all who have worked hard on this project. Is there a way to import midi music files into the program like you can with the Windows version, or is this something for a future version.
I appreciate everyones efforts on this project.
Eugene in Sunny Florida (The sun is shineing today, but cool)

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